Tracking the Olga Spammer (or lack thereof...) Yep-- he's at it again... First of all, in regards to the first attack. I have been informed that at least two states are pursuing criminal investigations against this person. The first time, we were able to localize him, by looking at majordomo logs to find his request for the grouplist. Assuming that he used the existing list, this won't work again. (I further assume that the majordomo admin's list is verifying that he didn't send another run of lists commands.) The messages themselves that seem to be from byu.edu are not-- they are being inserted by IBM mainframes running an IBM TCPIP package. This package does not verify the information it is given on the "helo" line, and does not log the ip address of the connection. Therefore, the admins of these sites most likely cannot trace who is doing this. This is clearly a serious deficiency in IBM's software. If there is sufficient momentum behind me, I may try to have this classified by CERT (or other agencies) as an exploited security hole. Hopefully this will pressure IBM to offer a "fix" for this problem. Also, if people wish to send me copies of this one, PLEASE put "(SPAM)" in the subject, (That's caps SPAM inside parens) so that you aren't spamming my mailbox! If you do this, please please include the *complete* headers (with Received lines)-- the message is of no use to me without them.... If people send me the spams, I'll compile a list of the abused sites, and send a message to their admins, that will hopefully explain things better than the flames I'm sure they are currently getting. Also, although it might be possible to get IBM to plug this hole, that does NOT solve the problem. There are far too many other ways to hide on the net. As in all such matters on the net, security starts at home. I can think of VERY few reasons why lists should be open to submissions from non-members. (The problem of foo.bar.com vs. baz.bar.com is solved by the majordomo "mungedomain" setting.) As always, I'll keep updates as they happen on my home page, http://www.panix.com/~lan --L